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    Post by C. Davis Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:00 pm

    Yeah, I thought that as long as you don't identify anyone without their permission (injured and deceased), then it's OK. I guess it's fine to identify other people like firefighters and policemen and stuff.
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    Post by EwanRaven Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:03 pm

    T. Matthews wrote:HIPPA only protects people due to their injuries and such, anyone could walk up to a house fire or car accident and take pictures, just not of the injured/ deceased people

    Filming/recording units rolling out to a call is a HIPPA violation. Anything that could disrupt the privacy of a patient or victim medicaly, and seeing as how fire department treats people medicaly, politically the fire department is classified as a "medical provider."

    Like I said, it's better to play it safe then have an ambulance chasing lawyer slap you with a multi hundred thousand dollar law suit.
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    Post by J. Hannahan Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:22 pm

    I wanted to take a pic of an accident that we had yesterday soo badly but after thinking of past mistakes, I thought it wouldn't be the right thing to do. Like a wise person ((^) yea that guy) once told me, if you think about whether to do it or not, just tell yourself not to do it. HIPAA is a federal law so violating it is a federal offense, not just local.
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    Post by T. Matthews Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:13 pm

    i dont see how recording a fire truck responding is a violation of HIPPA? if i recorded the dispatcher saying " john smith wants to kill himself at 123 white rd" then it would be a violation, but just a truck driving isnt invading anyones privacy
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    Post by T. Matthews Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:20 pm

    here is the press release of the incident http://www.mcfw.com/?p=5101 which for the record is none of my work
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    Post by M. Cressler Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:50 pm

    negative anything said over a radio...which btw that shouldn't be said...however anything over a radio is unsecured and is public information becuase anyone with 40 bucks can get a scanner and listen...that is why there are rules over what you can broadcast thats why they don't give names out and for larger places with fancy equipment they don't even have to give out addresses they send it right to the truck just like our E.A.T.


    Also the line between freedom of press and HIPPA is a fineeeeeee line
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    Post by J. Hannahan Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:43 pm

    Take it from me (MAthews, same exact thing hapened to me), don't even film the trucks responding because a call could come in at the time of departure maybe for that station or another one and the watchers can hear everything dispatched over the radio.
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    Post by C. Davis Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:32 pm

    What if it's along the highway or something, and they're just going bye. I've seen so many fire truck response vids, and I've never heard of lawsuits.
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    Post by D.McGuire Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:58 pm

    That's the reason I keep mine unlisted. I can share them with friends or family, and not have the general public seeing them. I mean still I suppose I could be in some sort of violation if they ever found out, but it's less likely.
    They are only us responding to the calls. I turn off the camera either as we arrive if it is a public building, or just before we turn onto the street if it's residential. I obviously wouldn't record a patient or with a patient or their home.

    I think HIPPA is also the reason that show "Firehouse USA" was canceled. It may not be though, I don't remember the reason.
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    Post by J.Floan Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:08 pm

    Ok i am now officially sick and tired of Weather. 1st the terrential rain, then the massive floodingt hat wiped out a town here in montana and now we have just had a tornado in the next county to the west WTH. This is enough, there is only so much we can take here .
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    Post by J. Hannahan Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:30 pm

    Woah, nature is beating your ass! lol
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    Post by Jack Anders Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:29 pm

    Some pics of MFDs "new" areial ladder at monday night training. (Facebook)

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    This was infront of one of my friends house and their mom took the pics.. I think
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    Post by T. Matthews Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:50 pm

    i think you have the album privacy settings on
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    Post by Jack Anders Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:57 pm

    ohh, they are not on my account but my friend may... let me try something quick.
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    Post by T. Matthews Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:59 pm

    dont worry about it
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    Post by C. Davis Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:15 pm

    I'M FINALLY ON SUMMER BREAK! We rode our bikes to and from school today. It was like 100 on the way home, so my friend and I rode shirtless. My other friend didn't because he's kinda...umm...you get it. Razz
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    Post by D. Lidner Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:18 pm

    Wow, When do you start about every school year?
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    Post by C. Davis Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:49 pm

    Ok, it's pretty stupid. We started August 18th I think...or maybe the 19th. Anyway, we would've been out last Wednesday, but due to the blizzard, we added on like 3 days and then a couple more for other stuff I think...But there's a rumor that next year we'll be getting out like May 20th or something. Kinda sucks cuz I'd rather get out in June but start in like September. In May, the weather's still too cool.
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    Post by T. Matthews Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:57 pm

    we start around september 8th or so, and finish june 14th, plus a week afterwords for state tests
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    Post by M. Cressler Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:56 am

    heard on of my favorite quotes ever on a rescue me commercial


    This ain't a job it ain't an occupation it's a calling

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    Post by M. Cressler Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:38 am

    Also I just finished writing my first blog for nflfootballfansite.com


    http://www.nflfootballfansite.com/featuredblog/Battle-of-The-Greedy-119207
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    Post by C. Davis Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:24 am

    M. Cressler wrote:heard on of my favorite quotes ever on a rescue me commercial


    This ain't a job it ain't an occupation it's a calling


    Dude that's a beastin quote. I'm using that one sometime in my life...
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    Post by Jack Anders Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:52 am

    My favorite two quotes... oddly have nothing to do with fire fighting lol

    1) "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are" - FDR
    2)"All who have meditated on the act of governing mankind, have been convinced that the fate of empires relies on the ecucation of the youth" - Aristole
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    Post by T. Matthews Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:21 pm

    my favorite, which is in my sig, from Rescue 1 FDNY David Weiss " Organized Chaos, Thats a Fire"
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    Post by D.McGuire Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:08 pm

    "A muffin is a bald cupcake"

    "It's so damn hot....Milk was a bad choice"

    "-Hey, it's Jims birthday
    -Oh I don't really like that guy
    -There's cake in the conference room.
    -Oh, well I should say hello..."
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    Post by T. Matthews Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:13 pm

    mcgurie, that last quote about the guy and cake, is that from jim gaffigan???
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    Post by D.McGuire Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:26 pm

    Lol it is indeed. One of teh funniest, yet at the same time perhaps one of the least known comedians.
    Heres the cake one:


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    Post by T. Matthews Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:07 pm

    me and my dad love him, we saw him when he came out here last year, it was at a college where there is a large number of deaf students, so they had an interpreter on stage for him and he was making fun of the guy saying he looked like his dad
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    Post by C. Davis Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:35 pm

    That guy is so funny I watched the whole video... Razz
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    Post by T. Matthews Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:57 pm

    his voices are the best, also watch his bacon stuff, search jim gaffigan bacon
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    Post by T. Matthews Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:24 pm

    soory for double posting, but switch of subjects, does anyone use helemet cameras? if so what kind/model/ price/ where you got it, and im looking for good quality new ones, not ebay..so far best ive found is $130
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    Post by C. Davis Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:40 pm

    Not yet I don't! Today my brother was watching America's Got Talent on the Internet and there was this girl, her name was Dani Shay. As she quotes, "I don't look like Justin Beiber, he looks like me." Just look...

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    Post by C. Jackson Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:31 am

    Just had some RE exam, inserting a few nice jokes in for the teachers who'll mark it. Question 8d) 'All religions deserve respect' i) Do you agree with this statement. 'I do not agree with this, because some religions are blatantly wrong and do not deserve to be treated on the same level as the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.' Also inserted a joke about the Church of Jezeus.
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    Post by EwanRaven Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:54 pm

    C. Jackson wrote:Just had some RE exam, inserting a few nice jokes in for the teachers who'll mark it. Question 8d) 'All religions deserve respect' i) Do you agree with this statement. 'I do not agree with this, because some religions are blatantly wrong and do not deserve to be treated on the same level as the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.' Also inserted a joke about the Church of Jezeus.

    Lame... I got an 85 on a math exam not because I knew content, I only knew like 4 questions, but because I completly recreated the stage of Jump Man, aka the first Mario Bros game.
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    Post by C. Jackson Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:07 pm

    Good work.
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    Post by J.Libor Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:36 pm

    EwanRaven wrote:
    C. Jackson wrote:Just had some RE exam, inserting a few nice jokes in for the teachers who'll mark it. Question 8d) 'All religions deserve respect' i) Do you agree with this statement. 'I do not agree with this, because some religions are blatantly wrong and do not deserve to be treated on the same level as the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.' Also inserted a joke about the Church of Jezeus.

    Lame... I got an 85 on a math exam not because I knew content, I only knew like 4 questions, but because I completly recreated the stage of Jump Man, aka the first Mario Bros game.

    How'd that work?
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    Post by C. Davis Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:27 pm

    LOL. Funny. Next time on a math test, when it tells you to "find x" or something, put a circle around it and write "found it!"
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    Post by Jack Anders Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:47 pm

    T. Matthews wrote:soory for double posting, but switch of subjects, does anyone use helemet cameras? if so what kind/model/ price/ where you got it, and im looking for good quality new ones, not ebay..so far best ive found is $130

    Check out WestPlainsFD on youtube, He uses a helmet cam and might be able to help you out.
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    Post by C. Davis Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:07 pm

    I think I've seen that before...Speaking of YouTube, this guy BakerM92 works for the Durham Highway FD in North Carolina. He had a bunch of response vids, but took them all off! Now he only has like 4 videos. Crying or Very sad
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    Post by Jack Anders Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:28 pm

    as did 911caddy who had some really good code drives!
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    Post by M. Cressler Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:30 pm

    so i was working down at PNC park today right doing photography and i found a bachelorette party i we took like 60 pictures in like 30 different places all slutty of course haha...I love my job
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    Post by T. Matthews Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:36 am

    Jack Anders wrote:
    T. Matthews wrote:soory for double posting, but switch of subjects, does anyone use helemet cameras? if so what kind/model/ price/ where you got it, and im looking for good quality new ones, not ebay..so far best ive found is $130

    Check out WestPlainsFD on youtube, He uses a helmet cam and might be able to help you out.
    haha thats so funny, yea i already am sub'd to him and asked him, well his wife replied, and told me the one that i am already owned on, probably gonna purchase today..but thanks!

    C. Davis wrote:I think I've seen that before...Speaking of YouTube, this guy BakerM92 works for the Durham Highway FD in North Carolina. He had a bunch of response vids, but took them all off! Now he only has like 4 videos. Crying or Very sad

    Jack Anders wrote:as did 911caddy who had some really good code drives!

    yea, a lot of people dont use their cmaeras right and run into a lot of liabality and posting things that shouldnt be posted..you just gotta be smart with them, they are a great tool when used right
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    Post by C. Davis Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:23 am

    Oh, because of thos HIPPA people or whatever. But there are so many response vids that are still up. Like LinglesTownFireCo35. I used one of his vids for a siren for LA Mod.
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    Post by Jack Anders Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:01 am

    haha thats so funny, yea i already am sub'd to him and asked him, well his wife replied, and told me the one that i am already owned on, probably gonna purchase today..but thanks!

    lol I saw that comment on youtube. ROFL. I really like his vids, they are pretty cool. As for 911caddy he was doing everything right, just management told him "no" :/
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    Post by C. Davis Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:11 am

    Oh, OK. So I guess I can start filming response vids eventually.
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    Post by T. Matthews Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:02 pm

    Jack Anders wrote:
    haha thats so funny, yea i already am sub'd to him and asked him, well his wife replied, and told me the one that i am already owned on, probably gonna purchase today..but thanks!

    lol I saw that comment on youtube. ROFL. I really like his vids, they are pretty cool. As for 911caddy he was doing everything right, just management told him "no" :/

    haha it wasnt mine then, i sent a pm to him..and yea some depts just play it safe, i used to watch these videos form a greenville SC i think it was, they had good ones but the citizens found out about it and compalined it invaded their privacy so they took them all down
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    Post by M. Cressler Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:21 pm

    see that shit would piss me off there are a couple reasons it doesn't invade there privacy....
    1. they probably said the full address over the radio which makes it public information and 2. It's a fire truck that is making a whole crap ton of noise anyone can find it and follow it oh and there is smoke pouring out of your house? 3. Chances are the newspaper will be there and take pictures and write a whole thing about it but they won't call them and complain will they?
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    Post by T. Matthews Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:27 pm

    1: actually im not to sure, cuz its not really public knowledge cuz really fire/police radios werent made to be listend to by the public, like idk how to say it, there not illegal obvisoly, but they werent meant for public use, and actually in my state the police switched to digital frequencies to prevent people from listening to them, and you can be fined if they catch you listening to them on a digital scanner, like they ever do catch people though

    2&3: totally agree with you
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    Post by C. Hutchison Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:40 pm

    Actually all information given to the dispatchers is publc record. If I wanted to right now, I could go down to my local records office and request a copy of the tape from, oh lets see, the second alarm fire I heard go out yeasterday. They would have to giveme a copy because it falls under the freedom of information act.
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    Post by M. Cressler Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:47 pm

    yes what hutch said and actually it is 100% legal to listen in on any police,ems,fire scanner so long as you do not use it in the commission of a crime thats why scanners are legal...you can not illegally transmit on them obviously unless authorized that would fall under the commission of a crime but i felt like i needed to add that part

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