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And most college instructors actually like teaching. My main criminal justice instructor. . . well the only one. lol Was the Police Chief here in hot springs and a career police officer for HSPD.

That's whats nice about college. Once you know what you want to do, you actually get taught by people with experience in that field which can make it a lot more interesting.

My brother went to college for Criminal Justice, and whenever his teacher was locked out of his room, he would just pick the lock.

I'm going for Fire Science, and for the first time ever, I actually can't wait for school, because it will be college where I can finally learn what I want and need, and not some crap like photosynthesis that I will never need in my life.

I think once I'm a career firefighter, I'm going to learn to become an electrician. They get paid really good depending on the size of the job, and the as a career firefighter you work, what? 2, 3, 4 days of the week? And in firefighting, that can help if it's something like an electrical condition or whatever.

Yeah, well i've already set my sights, I'm planning on being a state trooper here in Arkansas.

doug, what college you lookin at? im like 100% going to onondaga college out side syarcuse ny

I'm looking at New Jersey City University In Jersey City, NJ. Supposed to have a very good Fire Science program, and the only place around here that has fire science other than a county/community college.

My longterm goal is to become a fire/arson investigator.

ahh, yea the one im going to is only a 2 year, but then im going to another college for bachelors degree in buisness management or public policy ( basically the same thing) that way i can move up the ranks, cuz most places require you to have some sort of business bakground in order to move up

I want to get into Notre Dame, but I don't know if they have fire science classes there. I want to be a chemical engineer and work somewhere that pays good money!

just look on their website, it lists all the majors and coarses they have

I just want to go to my local community college and take three courses. Fire Science, RN, and Paramedics class. I want to at least retire being a battalion chief in the fire service. The only downside to that is that I don't think Battalion chiefs can into burning buildings....just wait outside and watch what's going on from the outside. Anyway, that's my goal.

yeah once you make it to like chief or lt you dont really do much lt.s will go in sometimes but not often chiefs should never go in and obviously anything above that you never go in

Sorry to get off that topic, but thought this was pretty interesting:

Idk how many of you are interested in aviation, but I am, I'm taking flight lessons and thought this was pretty interesting. Boeing will be announcing a Twin Aisle replacement to the Boeing 737 at the Paris Air Show. The Boeing 797

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/boeing-focusing-twin-aisle-concept-737-replacement-will-be-announce?cid=nl_atw_dn&YM_RID=lcg@bilrevyen.no

I was taking flight lessons until the economy took and even bigger dump. I already solo'ed a few times was just about ready to take my test for Private Pilot's license.

J. Hannahan wrote:I just want to go to my local community college and take three courses. Fire Science, RN, and Paramedics class. I want to at least retire being a battalion chief in the fire service. The only downside to that is that I don't think Battalion chiefs can into burning buildings....just wait outside and watch what's going on from the outside. Anyway, that's my goal.

( sorry this is so long, but its pretty informational)i hate to bust your bubble, but your never gonna be able to be a battalion chief, for a paid department im assuming your talking about cuz ive never heard of battalion chiefs for vollys..the fire science degree and paramedicene are great and the fire science is almost requried, the paramedicene is just great for you. But to be a hief your 99.99% if not 100% going to need some sort of business managment bachelor degree. everyone is requring you to have those in order to move up the ranks because your right the chiefs, especially at the highest ranks dont go out on alls, unless its probably like a 3+ alarm. The chiefs role now adays is pretty much budget management. Sitting in your office and writing out your budget, who to fire, who to hire..pretty much that. In my case im going to a 2 year college for fire science and then transfering to a large college for about 2-3 years for either buisness management or public policy which are pretty much the same

Here it works differently. Chiefs go through the ranks like everyone else usually, and it's only the top dogs that do that kinda stuff. Station chiefs and what not don't hire/fire anyone... Basically it's a lot like the ERT rank system here where the Fire OC can do that stuff, and maybe a deputy or two, but no one else below him.

Batt. Chiefs do need a degree but they go on fire assignments like all structure fire calls whether it be a precautionary assignment or a two alarm. They do admin work but they sometimes spend time waiting for a call by going to different stations and things down here haha. I do plan to get my bachelor's soon but not just yet haha.

DCBurke wrote:Here it works differently. Chiefs go through the ranks like everyone else usually, and it's only the top dogs that do that kinda stuff. Station chiefs and what not don't hire/fire anyone... Basically it's a lot like the ERT rank system here where the Fire OC can do that stuff, and maybe a deputy or two, but no one else below him.

yea, i know for my local city dept they dont have station chiefs, they have battalions, but they have a captain/ LT. for each shift but they dont do any work, just leadership

J. Hannahan wrote:Batt. Chiefs do need a degree but they go on fire assignments like all structure fire calls whether it be a precautionary assignment or a two alarm. They do admin work but they sometimes spend time waiting for a call by going to different stations and things down here haha. I do plan to get my bachelor's soon but not just yet haha.

yea, im getting my bachelors degree before i even start my carrer because if i dont i will keep telling myself ill go back to school and get it when i never will, or god forbid i get injured on the job, or for some reason the recession hits even harder and all cities go volly or something, i still have the bachelors degree to fall back on

Well ERT Leadership for fire works so every fire truck will have a truck officer, smaller two or three people units will have senior officers. The Truck officer will be a Lt, or higher. The Senior officer will just be the longest serving officer. Each Task force will be given an officer, either of Lt. Or Capt Rank. Each Station will be given a chief, either of Station Chief, or Deputy Chief rank. You stop doing real work at the station chief level.

Well ERT Leadership for fire works so every fire truck will have a truck officer, smaller two or three people units will have senior officers. The Truck officer will be a Lt, or higher. The Senior officer will just be the longest serving officer. Each Task force will be given an officer, either of Lt. Or Capt Rank. Each Station will be given a chief, either of Station Chief, or Deputy Chief rank. You stop doing real work at the station chief level.

LOL, identical post ^!

heard ya the first time burke..haha just messin, but yea, too bad that organzational system cant be placed in real life, that would cost a fortuane for that many jobs

haha my station right small station probably like 25 FF aprox.....we have Chief, chief 1, cheif 2, Lt, LT 1, Safety officer, engineer....haha so much redundancy lol

kinda same here moon, technically we have like 35, but only about 10 that actually show up, we have a chief, deputy chief, asst. chief, 2 captains, 2 lt's, safety officer, ems LT

well if we count people who show up we have like 10 depending on time of day haha

yea same here

Thats the only bad thing about a Vol. dept is that people get there, they get the title of firefighter and then decide yep thats what they wanted and never show up again or hardly show up at all. I dont have anything against Vol depts as long as they are dedicated rather than those who just want to ride on an engine and look cool. I have spent my life dedicated to Emergency Service and that would just Piss me off if I had 25 people and only 10 that showed up..

(yeah well our dept you have to be there for like 25% of the calls meetings or parade durng the year or chances are you get kicked out obviously some exceptions are made)

We usually get a good turnout for fires but if we have AFA's or MVA's or CO alarms it's usually a low turnout.

yea, in addition to that, i mean we only have 4 trucks, the yellow one never leaves unless a tanker is requested or its a grass fire..typically only the red pumper and the rescue go on anything, cuz we recieve muatail aid, and of coarse the squad goes out on ems runs http://www.mortonfire.org/apparatus.html

Yeah our layout is pretty much

MVA (1st rescue pickup..2nd Engine 2.)
Brush fire (Engine 2 ...rescue)
House fire (Engine 1...Engine 2...rescue)
AFA (depends on how many people show up haha we took the rescue truck to an AFA one time.)
CO alarm (Engine 2)

Medical-Truck 2 (Quint), ALS 1 or 2/ALS 1 or 2 and PM car.
MVA-Truck 2 and however many medical personal is needed.
Fire Alarm-Chief, Tower 1, Truck 2, ALS 1 or 2, sometimes Deputy Chief, and engines from Station 3 if needed.
Car Fire-Truck 2, ambulance, etc.

Pretty much all we get around here, mostly medicals. Like today, one of our janitors had breathing problems, so an ambulance and quint responded. I just heard the sirens, they sounded close, but was unaware that it was at the school until later.

last year we had 93 Fire/rescue calls 1474 EMS calls

we get about 200 calls a year, haha yea talk about rural,about half of which are ems

yeah the top of our county has a station like that

We get at least 39,000 calls a year.
Here is other stuff:Total call volume was 38,727.
(This is from 07-08)

The total breakdown is as follows:
27,107 EMS (71%)
3,234 Service (8%)
2,827 False Alarms (7%)
2,801 Good Intent (7%)
1,211 Fire (3%)
-366 fires classed as structure fires
1,403 Hazardous Condition (4%)
144 Other (>1%).

Total reported fire loss was slightly over 9.4 million dollars.
-7.4 million was from structure loss
-1.5 million in vehicle fire loss
-A little more than half a million in other losses.
*There were 22 fires with a reported loss equal to or greater than 100,000 dollars.

Medical
27,107 calls run by Henrico Fire only
*31,427 total system call volume, including those answered only by VRS (Volunteer Rescue Squads)
*EMS calls were up by 1,385 over the previous year.

Call Volume by Geographical Battalion
-13,260 calls in the western part of the county
-9,080 in the eastern part of the county
-8,534 in the northern part of the county

Injuries
11 firefighter injuries related to incidents
2 civilian deaths
23 civilian injuries

Specialty teams
-50 hazardous materials calls
-26 search and rescue calls
-8 technical rescue calls

Apparatus repair costs were 1.7 million dollars

Wow I wish I was in a slightly more active station don't get me wrong I love my station but we'll go weeks without getting anything

Wow!! That sounds tough!

yeah so it turn into a lot of drinking and partying haha at our christmas party the one LT left to walk home.....walked straight down the street....not the side walk the street.....

I don't know call stats for my town, but I'll tell you guys the responses for my town and the mutual aid for the small county.

Medical (If EMS unavailable) 1 Engine or Squad, and Rescue (Fire Ambulance)

Brush Fire 1 Engine

Reported Structure Fire 2 Engines, Squad, Truck, Battalion Chief.

Confirmed Structure Fire 3 Engines, Squad, Truck, Battalion Chief, Deputy Chief, EMS, 'all 900 Personnel'(The volunteers, they only go to large fires, and the only carry equipment), notify Mutual Aid

Fire Alarm 2 Engines, Truck

MVA Squad, EMS


Mutual Aid for the county:
RIT - 1 Career Engine
Task Force to the scene - 3 Career Engines, 1 Career Ladder
Task Force Cover assignment - 3 Volly Engines, 1 Volly truck

For each additional Alarm, the companies at the cover assignment respond to the scene, and a new cover assignment gets dispatched.

the only time we have a good response is when we have a confirmed fire in our town then the whistle blares like 12 times we have one of the horns thats like a super train horn and we have a button in the station if the fires rippin we just lay on that thing till the air runs out and then we get about 20 people but thats the only time we get a good turnout

My city runs abound 400-500 fire calls a year. Then our 2 ambulance run near 1000.

Our responses our:

Medical: 5601 or 5602 (Ambulance, which ever availble) Fire- Rescue if assistance needed.

Accident: Duty-Officer, Engine 3, Engine 2, 5601/5602. If severve/ aircare needed.:Engine 3, Engine 2, Rescue 1, Grass Rig

Structure Fire: Engine 1, Engine 2, Engine 3, Rescue 1, Tanker 1 & 2 (if no hydrants), Ladder 1

Car Fire: Duty Officer, Engine 3, Engine 2



Our units are:

Station 1:
Engine 1

Engine 3

Rescue 1

Tanker 2

HAZ-MAT trailer

Grass 2 & 3

Chief 2

Captain 1

Station 2 :
Engine 2

Tanker 1

Ladder 1

Grass 1 & 4

Chief 1

They have a grass 3 in both stations?

My bad edited

Ok, I get it now lol. Do you live in a dense area of brush? Is it mostly brush where you live is what i'm trying to say haha.

My town is like the edge of civilization...if you got 20 minutes one way your in downtown pittsburgh....20 minutes the other way you're in the middle of farm country 1 house every 15 miles hahah......So were like the last company on the border that doesn't have a brush truck everyone farther out then us has 1 if not 2

Yes, we have a lot of brush fires, but our city is really big space wise so it's half residential/commercial, half trees/ brush. We have about 30,000 people.

Nice! Now what are you? (no offense haha) Junior FF? Cadet, Fire Explorer?

None, my dad is a fire fighter and our city dosent have a post. I do get on some ambulance ride alongs, but other than that I just help out as much as possible.

Cool! Can you ride on the engine or anything else? You should ask your dad to start one up! Its really fun if everything is set up correctly haha.

Ya, it would be awesome. No, the reason I can ride on the ambulance is because technically it's a service owned by the fire fighters, not the city, so it's not a city vehicle, which is why I can ride on Ems.

My dad is also a firefighter at a refinary (I believe I've said that many times before),and I wish I could ride with them. They just have a bunch of stand-bys though. I think since my dad joined the department in June, I don't think he's gotton one fire call.

Oh...well if there is a fire over there its sure to be big! Does he get medical calls?