Two Car MVA

(remember P-11 responded. Ok thanks for telling me )
'Alright, lets head home then I'll use my POV to get you guys Pizza.'
"Ladder 1 clearing. En route station and available for callout."
*I put my phone back in my pocket and make sure I have my seatbelt on.*
'Seatbelt on guys?'

-=AFTER ACTION REPORT=-

The following was written by Ewan Raven with help by Frank Garcia.

Overview: Okay I was not very happy with the fact that when you guys came in you ignored my blaten instructions to take the ladder below to where I was, and after several posts of saying "Take the ladder down the road" I don't seem to recall that happening and I just godmoded that into happening, as a matter of fact it got so hectic that I just kind of dropped out, it's a harsh truth but at some time or another we'll have to improve your leadership and listening skills. However I will say stuff got done, and at the end of the day, I'm stuck on a rope, and (almost) everyone made it through the ordeal.

-=Units responded=-
Squad one - T.O Ewan Raven
Ladder one- T.O John Hannahan
Pumper eleven - T.O Frank Garcia

-=Overall Efficiency=-
42%

-=Good Notes=-
At the beginning before all hell broke loose you asked questions before you acted alone. Good job.

(I'll make sure to do better next time)

REPORT NOTES, NOT PART OF CALL

C. Hutchison wrote:*I grab a harness and help Jess into it and tighten down the straps for her.*
'Alright shes ready, I have ALS treatmnet zone set up up here for the critical.'

I don't know about everywhere else, but at least here we only set up treatment zones for traige. This is a call with two injured. Therefore, the two ambulances should have served as treatment areas.. Now if I'm horribly wrong, I'll accept that, I just wanted to make light of it
EDIT: Brought to my attention, zone was made before ambulances showed up, and casualties were known. Second was made after the first with ambulances and casualty numbers know (ambulance # = Causalty #)

J. Hannahan wrote:'Alright. (Bruce is going down...not Cory). Bruce, you ready yet?'
*Bruce gets the cutters and I hook him up to the support harness and after ensuring he's good, I tell him he's good to go.*
'Alright Bruce go.'
"Jessica, Bruce is coming down now."

This is an example of the mayn times OOC was used. That's good, I like that you guys are communicating to plan IRL, but thing is, from what I gathered, there was a whole lotta redoings and lost... It was a lot easier with 6 people on a call, when it gets to twenty odd, it's a lot harder. From now on, as a note with everyne, until further notice, if you plan on escalating a call, ask me first, just so we can ensure we don't have way too many people. We need to do some mass training before we're ready to do mass calls, so I don't want small calls, turning into large ones.

J. Hannahan wrote:'Use your bunker gear. Just back up when the cutters are being used and put the shield down on your helmet.

NFPA Big no no. Bunker gear is PPE. I understand the reasoning for it, but from now on, we should plan to have a blanket or something. PPE is to protect you. If you don't have it on, you're much more likely to get cut. Cuts = open areas for infections to transfer. Infections = bad. I know it's an extreme case I'm talking about, but considering the most you can have on is a long sleeve shirt under that jacket, and the shirts aren't kevlar, they're cotton... As far as I know, no turnout jacket means you're very unprotected, so I just wanted to point that out for future reference. The ERT asks that all firefighters remain in full bunker gear while on a scene if there is any injury risk, unless extreme circumstances exist (IE you're being ahero and saving a child, then you're allowed to, but don't make it regular practice)

Another HUGE NO NO, is that BLS transported a critical patient. If this was real life, they'd be dead. ALS ambulances have the drugs, and a lot more equipment. A BLS one has very BASIC life support equipment, not near enough for a critical patient. There was an ALS ambulance on scene, and from what I gathered, there were two casualties, one beign dead, therefore, you guys completely ignored the fact there was an ALS ambulance on scene, and instead sent the dying guy in the back of a van with bls. Regardless how many paramedics you have, you don't have the equipment. If I see that again, I'm cancelling you and sending you back to the scene, transferring patient to an ALS ambulance, and confining whoever said to do it to their truck for the remainder of the call. The dead guy should've been taken by the coronor, or at worst, the BLS ambulance. Common sense. Dying gets ALS dead, well he doesn't matter. It's the same reason anyone can do autopsies, dead is dead, they don't get worse.


I had a good few calls lined up, but we need to work on a few things first before. Next call will be a training incident similar to this one. I request the TO's from this call also post their reports, if you've got a comment, quote the part you wanna comment on and comment. After all the reports are in, I'll contact the TOs with the layout for the call, where it should go and we'll see what happens with the training call.

PS I just got a call from the ETc, the critical guy just died. Whoever made the call gets to go tell his family, and explain why he died, including the fact that you elected to use BLS transport.


I'm not totally ragging on you guys, this call was just a little messy. I apologize for above freak out, but I feel it will accomplish that we need to work on our calls a little bit more. Communication is key, use OOC brackets, PMs whatever, jsut work together and follow orders, but above all, READ THE POSTS. I read this entire topic in 15 minutes, making notes, you can catch up I'm sure

(Ok I get it. I did bring the dead guy to the coroners though but I get what your saying.This means I gotta tell them don't I?)

(No, it'd be the guy who decided that a FF/PM in a BLS ambulance was suffiecient treatment for a critical patient. It's to convey a point, not actual roleplaying. There will be training to fix the above mentioned issues, I'm just pissy because I haven't banned a real person in a week, and I miss the entertainment that comes with it )

(I'll get on that then.)

(Sorry, long 2 days)
I get in the ambulance and head back to base, I park next to BLS 1 and begin to restock and clean. "ALS 1 avaible for call out."

((Yeah I wasn't online for a day and wasn't on top of things for the call, I could've done better!))

((So... someone took off their PPE's when cutting?))

((Yeah I forget who...they used theur jacket to cover the trapped victim.))

((alright, let me know who it was then have them come talk to me in a p.m.))

J. Hannahan wrote:'Use your bunker gear. Just back up when the cutters are being used and put the shield down on your helmet.

((they did it under LTs direction....))

((i'm going to talk to both of them, because it is both their own fault. As Training captain it's part of my responsibility to make sure it never happens again.))

(I will make sure of it!)