Police Operations Meeting

Members in meeting
District Commissioner
TAC OIC
Patrol OIC
Lieutenant Bucello
COPA Officer Daniels if health permits

Topic - ERT Situation, please post when ready, I'll send out a breif after that. Please may the participants be the only ones in this, anyone else will be asked to leave and will be noted.

Hey guys, how's it going?

**I walk into the room; COPA is already there, and apparently I was pre-cleared.**

'Lt. Bucello reporting. Did I miss anything?'

Nope, right on time.

'Alright, good. Bridwell tends to be busy and a little late to these meetings.'

((How much do you want to bet that this is going to be about that shooting on Mitch's car?))

(Shooting? I think this is going to be about setting up protcals for police forces and stuff like that, just building a foundation.)

((Burke sounded so urgent when he called us to a meeting; I thought for sure that it would be about Mitch.))

(Dunno, I guess we'll find out when bridwell gets here.)

(Wait there was a shooting? Maybe I'll get mitch to write taht report! I knew I hired him for some reason!!)

Hi guys, no this isn't to fire anyone, I just need to go over three things, first being police rosters, and how you each feel about your departments so I know where to gear hiring, second being the last incident and links to incidents against the ERT recently... Please share any feelings, I have a folder here of information gather by us in partnership with the FBI, and thirdly, the police protocols. As you may have noticed, we had all sorts of officers not quite trained going into that situation at the bank, and although it's not ideal, sometimes it has to happen, so I want to lay down a few ground rules, in conjunction with TAC and the patrol OIC...

Sound good? If no one has anything else for the agenda, lets start with Topic 1.

Sounds good. Well

Police Rosters:

Patrol Division:
PC-1: Officer A. Blanc
PC-2: Officer Jackson
PC-3: Officer Wolf-On randomly
PC-4:
PC-5: Officer Stabler
PC-6: Sgt. Libor
PC-7: Officer A. Halls
PC-8: Officer Bates
UMC-1:Cpl: Linda
UMC-2:

I feel that every active officer is doing a really good job. They follow orders and for the most part do stuff correct. There isn't enough officers to really point out need areas as all officers can do anything at this time. I wish some of the other guys that did good, then left were here still, but i dont know. Andrews went ape shit for some reason. Marsh was pumped, I sent him a message explaining how it worked after he asked and he never replied. Wolf is on and off, but I think I only worked with him once. WE really just need more Patrol Officers before we can start any branches and divisions.

Understood, I had planned on branching into another station and advancing TAC, but currently, given the roster you've given me, that's impossible. I'll gear recruiting towards patrol officers.

As of right now:

RRT:
J.Bridwell
J.Bucello

I believe there is another member of TAC who's name I have only seen on the members page. As for the unit's situation overall I personally believe a little limited. Seeing the need for patrol officers I cant help but impose the idea of making TAC a situational unit and patrol officers primary. For example, responding to most calls as patrol officers but when needed able to preform TAC operations. Sort of like a CERT but for PD.

That's why I think we need to do the thing where all officers have semi-auto rifles in there squad with gear so we all are able to conduct tac operations with accurate and powerful guns so we can be able to be adicate help. I like the idea of tac being patrol officers since both of you guys do a good job and would help with numbers. Then, we could cover both with one agency.

'I think Libor is right in principle, but I'm not comfortable with the idea of regular patrol officers going around with high-powered weaponry. If for no other reason, it's unnecessarily imposing in a non-tactical situation, and people will be less comfortable talking to officers. I suggest that TAC carry additional weapons to give to trained patrolmen pending an expansion of TAC.

'At the same time, I'm not sure that TAC is needed for patrol. Any incident that involves more than three ERT patrol units should probably have TAC on scene anyway, seeing as city police, state patrol or sheriff's deputies will also be on scene. I think TAC should have training missions, just as the ERT FD does. It would help coordinate raids more effectively in the future.'

The rifles would be stored in a mount above the officer that is locked on and can only be open via a hidden release or a code. You can't see them from out side the car, but anyway...

'What I'm trying to say is that, with the rifles more accessable to officers, they'd be more inclined to use them in non-tactical situations, which could be negative in terms of public perception. As much as we want to stay safe, we shouldn't alienate the public. They already have a negative perception of the police as it is. Still, I agree that patrol officers should be trained in the use of these weapons pending an expansion of TAC.'

Well, i would rather be shot by a m4 soft tip bullet than a shot gun spread. Plus they are semi-auto. The officers are trained in use of firearms of all sizes. They are allowed to be used in all operations such as perimeters after chases/tac situations, felony stops, etc. Plus, we gave a gang now targeting us, we are on the streets dealing with them. They have high powered weapons that we have no chance against with handguns and shotguns. They also have body armour. I dont want a repeat of the bank of America shoot out in california.

If were gonna go the direction with assault rifles in patrol units, I would want the officer to be a Cpl or higher and have training.

'I'm willing to let more senior officers carry assault rifles. Libor makes a good point; now that we have an organized group targeting us, it might be a good idea to be better protected. TAC should also be readied as a standby unit in case of another attack like the one on Mitch's car. And let's not forget that we can request military support from Fort Basio under the Insurrection Act or posse comitatus if, for any reason, we can't handle the situation alone.'

I am okay with allowing extra rifles and gear in TAC units. Lemme explain why you guys are on RRT and not the HR-1. RRT is supposed to serve as a tactical assistance unit to patrol forces when needed. It is only to have 4 people max. There's two TAC agents, a sharpshooter and a scout on board that. Everyone else comes from other units.

I also do not wnat every patrol officer with high powered arms, it does indeed alienate them, and we become a place like iran, where the cops have assualt rifles on them at all times. I don't want that.Special training for corporal rank and up can be offered though if we all agree with that.

'I have no qualms about extra training. It's worth noting that Northern Ireland has heavily armed and armored patrols - with good reason - but we're not at that stage yet. RRT needs to be ready on call at a moment's notice. By the way, our RRT has no marksman or scout, so our response ability is handicapped.'

Yes, well good men are hard to come by, trust me I've been looking. Right now, your jobs ahve been adapted to provide tactical entry and ground level assisatance, however not to full capacity. I'm looking for several more people before I can branch out the ranks

'I understand, sir.'

((By the way, does anyone here acutally watch the videos I post as recruiting tools?))

'Should we outline some sort of formal plan?'

Here are my real life reasons:
http://www.startribune.com/local/17144341.html
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2009/08/boston_fbi_head.html
***http://www.odmp.org/year.php*** Look how many officers in the U.S. have been killed by gunfire this year. There have been 4 this month from gunfire. Many dept. have started using these guns, why shouldn't we. Every big dept. Ive read that uses them is because of terrorist #1 reason. We have a group directly targeting us, therefore EVERY officer should be equiped. Memphis PD carries them on traffic stop. One stands by the squad with an rifle to cover the other officer. I dont want this to happen here, but I want to be able to be able to save my self and my fellow partners.

http://www.abc24.com/news/local/story/West-Memphis-Police-Now-Using-Assault-Rifles-on/BwzDmSvZIU66SmmSrbj_fw.cspx

'Sergeant, I understand your concerns and I think they're not without merit. Even so, we have to remember that we are public servants - that is, we serve the public. If the public sees our officers standing at a misdemeanor trafic stop with a UMP ready to fire, that will fuel the public sentiment against the police and what they see as an expansion of government control. We need the public on our side to fight crime, and sheer muscle is not going to do it. Officers should definately get training on how to act when under heavy attack, and - if needed - should get proper body armor. Heavy weapons, however, are imposing to a degree that we shouldn't be taking it to.'

'I didnt say I want an officer to take his rifle on a traffic stop. That was an example of how certain dept. have had to go to to keep officers safe. The problem with shotguns is short range, less penatration at distance. If I got a guy unload an Ak-47 on me from 50 yds out, I want to have a chance to stop him. I dont know how, honestly, that you could be against when 56 officers have died from gunfire this year. I believe that we will lose an officer from ERT or any surrounding agency if we arent able to defend our selves. If you didnt read the article, here is a few examples.

"Patrol officers started getting them after the country watched in horror in 1997 as televised footage showed Los Angeles officers fleeing from two bank robbers spraying bullets from assault rifles at a North Hollywood bank. Police handgun shots bounced off the robbers' body armor. Seven civilians and 11 officers were wounded.
More recently, a Miami-Dade, Fla., officer was killed during a traffic stop last September and three other officers wounded by a driver firing an assault rifle. The cops had only handguns.

Last weekend Chaska police stopped a driver who had illegal drugs, a .45-caliber semiautomatic handgun under his seat and a bulletproof vest in his trunk, Knight said. In another recent example, Chaska officers responding to a domestic assault call found an assault rifle in the hands of a man high on drugs. And about three years ago, they encountered a gang member with a MAC-10 handheld submachine gun."-Startribune

The city of Chaska, is an average city in the suburbs of Minneapolis. It is an average town and they have pulled assualt rifles off guys there.

We will not be able to serve the public if we are dead or wounded. I know even with these guns, there is still a high chance of death if we are attacked, but it may give us an advantage. You guys are worried about making a good public image, well at least the average guy on the corner supported me and while I was gun down. We are to serve and PROTECT. I guarentee that it will be more than officer deaths in an attack. If we have to wait for a unit to be able to gear up, get en route, on scene, and able to take him down, many people can and would die.

The idea of having a gangster pulling an assualt rifle is bad enough, not being able to stop him because of body armour and being out gunned makes you wonder, not if you are going to die, but when.

I think offering training to higher level officers for the use of these weapons and to carry them on their patrol vehicle is good, however to the point of taking an assualt rifle for a traffic stop, or something like that, I think that's way to over board. As for the group that is kept being mentioned, I have received intel, and demands.

The group goes by the name of Loctis, and claims to have a beef with the government funding we are receiving that could be used to better society. They see us as an over powerful waste of money. They demand that we complete three things, allow their group's settlement in the Phoxlind area, channel portions of our funding to outreach prgrams not under our jurisdiction, and that I resign. Obviously these are not options. We do not allow organized crime to settle in, we have our own outreach programs, and I am staying.

'We have gathered that there are two men at the top, both whtie males, believed to be from this state.' I say as I bring up the pictures of them. 'They are believed to have secured some kind of sociology degree and studied how the government here works. The organization looks to have about 15 different permanent foot soldiers, and the rest seem to have been paid off in large sums of cash to complete single jobs. This money is believed to be received from two channels, extortion and drugs. I suggest we work with the PPD and TSD to check with local shops for possiblity of extortion while we focus on the drug rings and finding these 15 permanent foot soldiers. I want to organize warrants to arrest two I know of within the next little while. These two men are low level and mostly do the money side of things, so if we pick them up, which should be a simple enough task, considering neither are violent men.'

'I can't continue to make this point more: we're already imposing enough as it is. After the drug deal bust at the warehouse, I think a lot of people are upset that someone got killed in that. Our ability to serve and protect is severely hampered if the public is not on our side. Ask yourself: is the public protected if we have to constantly remind them that we're their protectors, not their enemy?

'I'm aware of North Hollywood and the other high profile incidents where the regular patrol officers were outgunned. That's why the ERT has a rapid response team to quickly provide support to officers where it is most needed. Like I said before, if a tactical situation arises, we can provide firearms to trained officers and move in with our own units. Plus, nothing is stopping us from armoring our patrol officers if the need arises.

'With regards to the men that Burke mentiones, what should be key is stealth. If they know we're looking for them, they will either move first or try to flee. We should be exercising caution as we conduct our search.'

'I agree, and I also think that we need to look at crime rates. Phoxlind, is much lower in crime levels and threats than detroit or memphis or hollywood, but I think we need to move on from this issue for now, and focus on the bigger threat at hand.'

'I have agents in other areas that correspond with ERT.. I think if we follow the two men to their work or whatever, then we just pull them over and act like a regular traffic stop and bust them. If we take them out, then their money handling gets cut.'

I never said I wanted them to pull the guns on traffic stops or any calls other than calls that are definality a threat. I want them so we can have a chance.
@Buccelo, It takes 1 bullet at a min to kill you. The AK-47 can shoot 600 rounds/min. It has a range of 350 yds full auto. That three minutes it takes you to get on scene, we are already dead.

We will definalty work with city guys on this, as it affects everyone in this county. We need to be careful on how we handle this. We dont need a mexican drug war going on.

On the drug side of things, we need to find a source. It they are exporting or importing it, we'll talk to the Border Patrol. We need to learn the type of drugs they are making/ importing.

How did we obtain info on these guys and what info do you have?

This info was obtained through street informats I made back in the days of patrol work, and also through FBI, NSA, DEA, and local agency contacts. Everyone wants their hand in the cookie jar, too bad we own it.

Can I get the info on them?

Libor, I think it has already been decided what course of action is going to be taken with regards to the assault weapons. You'll hear nothing more from me on this discussion. Let's discuss the arrest warrants quickly; I need to be somewhere.

((I don't, actually, but I've just about had it with this meeting.))

'Remember guys, we're all on the same team, and I sign all of your checks, and I might forget a few hours if you skip out

I want to see if each department has the resources to conduct a traffic stop with two unmarked units waiting by. TAC will be in their unmarked POVs, which are being fitted currently, for response and patrol (not transport)'

'Do you have the info on the suspect?' (Bucello, what does it matter to you if we have the weapon? I remember DC saying this is an urban area of 500,000 (in tazer debate topic), now I think crime levels are high enough it that size of area. Every town around me uses them and the biggest town has 30,000 people. I really dont get it, I just dont...)

((Burke: That was in OOC parenthesis. It wasn't part of the conversation, though I'll work it into the storyline.))

((Libor: We're not an all-TAC police force. There's a reason we're around. Our department is going to lose its specialization until we end up as no more than patrol officers. Before all of this gang-related business, all that the police were handling was crowd control, traffic stops and the occasional major incident. In any case, you'll see how I work this into the plot.))

I believe that Cpl or higher should receive the weapon if they get training. However any incident regarding the deployment of the patrol rifles will merit the response of RRT. Sound good??

'Sure.'

'Well, as good as I can get for now, sounds good. TAC should respond to almost all incidents that it would be drawn anyways. I believe every officer should be trained in the use of the weapon though. The only time you guys wouldn't need to respond is felony stops, etc.

'Anything else to discuss?'

Yes, ive got a request from an patrol officer who is requesting we do more training and set protocal for Tactical Calls. Also, DC wants to talk about some protocal stuff.

Yes, I want to see how you guys feel about how things work now, how much training we'll need, etc etc. If you feel your divisions are up to code. I'll be making an effort to include special training simulations for half and half for patrol, so we still have half of our guys ready to run, I just don't want to take everyone out of service. Sound good by you?

TAC, how's inter-personnel-training going with you guys, do you want to work more with patrol in training, how do you guys feel?

I would like to work with the officers on secring scenes, and keeping them safe while we are responding. Put simply Traning/Procedures for the First officer On-Scene to TAC situations.

I believe the officer wants to known how to do TAC situations so we dont have anymore cluster bombs while we are clearing a building.

'Agreed. While TAC is still a two-man setup, we need more people trained in tactical entries. If I or another TAC officer posts a map detailing how we will make entry, we expect it followed. Just like the fire department trains, we should train as well. Perhaps a staged robbery or traffic stop turned standoff. Incidents like that would help us react better if the situation arises. Remember the ill-handled bus attack from not too long ago?'

That I do! That was a huge disaster. Hold on, my phone's ringing

*five minutes later*

That was an informate message, the two guys will be meeting downtown in a vehicle parked to discuss their funding options right now. We've got another 4 hours before the meeting is gonna take place... This is our chance to get them together, probably unarmed and easy enough. Bucello, Libor, why don't you guys take care of this one after the meeting. Bucello, take your POV, Libor, you'll conduct the traffic stop, the lt and a UMC will just standby to assist with the arrests once the vehicle has stopped. Sound good? You guys can work out a plan. Bridwell, once they're gone, I would like to do up a training strategy with you if you are able to.

'Alright. I'll get my equipment and I'll be ready to move over on your orders.'

**I excuse myself from the meeting (a little relieved) and go to the parking lot. My personal vehicle is there, equipped with only a single red rotating beacon on the dashboard for emergency lighting. I make sure I'm in the proper non-raid uniform; I am. I make sure my sidearm is loaded; it is. It looks like I'm ready to go.**

Can I get location and info on cars/ suspect.

Mhmm, I'll forward it over EAT to your computers
(You can start the topic in the O-R)

EAT
Suspects: Unknwon names, High level accountants in the organziation gunning for ERT
Vehicles: Unknown, meeting in a blue GMC express van
Unarmed,

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