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    Post by M. Galligano Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:51 pm

    Please post your thoughts about Area 51 here. You may also post videos and pictures here as well.
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    Post by J.Libor Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:59 pm

    Area 51 is real, people just dont know what happens there.
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    Post by D.McGuire Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:00 pm

    Area 51 (the base) is real, everybody knows it real. It's the 51st area on some grid map of Nevada or the desert or something.

    I assume it's what's believed to go on there that you're asking about? (UFOs, Aliens, etc.)
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    Post by M. Galligano Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:04 pm

    Well, McGuire, pretty much. I was wondering if people think that the aliens are real. I have seen photos and UFOs, but I wasn't too sure about them.
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    Post by D.McGuire Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:06 pm

    Of course they're real, think about it.

    The Earth's population of all life-forms is TINY compared to all of the never ending space with hundreds of other galaxies beyond what have been discovered. It's really hard to believe we are the only living organisms at all in space.
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    Post by M. Galligano Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:07 pm

    That's pretty scary. Where do all of the UFOs come from then?
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    Post by D.McGuire Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:15 pm

    ((Just btw, Sorry if I sound like an ass by saying 'of course' I'm just confident in my beliefs))

    The other lifeforms we don't know about build them. For all we know, they could be unbelievably more advanced than us. That could be their space program. Like how we have the ISS and Shuttles, they have their own space vehicle that they can inhabit for long periods of time, as a lab or testing facility.

    I'm not crazy, I'm sure I sound like I got all of that info from a Psych patient, but I didn't, lol. That's what a believe based on stories I've read.

    Mike, There's a story I want you to read. This took place on a highway very close to a vacation home I had in new Hampshire. The Barny and Betty Hill story, from around the 50s, they claim to have been abducted by aliens and can remember it:

    This wikipedia article is legitimate as far as what I can tell based on the real stories and books I've read regarding this story:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_and_Barney_Hill_abduction


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    Post by D. Lafferty Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:16 pm

    They come from Arkansas. We take the people we hate and put them in those spaceships and make them crash over there. Never hear from them again.
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    Post by D.McGuire Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:21 pm

    Another reason for me to want to visit Arkansas, lol. Arkansas's officially got everything.
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    Post by D. Lafferty Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:22 pm

    lol, yeah we have waffle houses
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    Post by D.McGuire Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:23 pm

    Never been, all i know is their sign looks like letters on a ransom note, and that my friend that went there said they ran out of chocolate milk, so an employee went out and bought chocolate milk at a store across the street. sounds like good customer service.
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    Post by A.Halls Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:25 pm

    The military base Area 51 is, as stated, very much real. It's a part of the Edwards Air Force Base, and it's official purpose is " to support development and testing of experimental aircraft and weapons systems" as Wikipedia puts it.

    Are aliens real? I don't know, but I don't think they'd keep them in Area 51. Wink
    The areas secrecy is most likely caused by the technology that the US Air Force is developing there, so as to shield it from onlookers that could (potentially) observe, intercept, and utilize said technology for their own gain. E.g spies from other countries military forces, terrorist etc...

    They are probably making invisible aircrafts, ultra-long range weaponry, lasers and so forth at Area 51, but I doubt there are any martians or other aliens there. ^^

    Linking this from Wikipedia for those interested, it's a letter from USAF responding on inquiries about "Area 51".
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    Post by D. Lafferty Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:26 pm

    Oh, it's good. And wow that is good customer service. But back to the topic of Area 51. I think and its just my opinion that it is just a facility for testing weapons, airplanes etc..
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    Post by D.McGuire Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:27 pm

    Yeah, if there is an alien/UFO/space research there, it's probably no more than what any other places are researching.
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    Post by M. Cressler Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:28 pm

    Heres my two cents....think about how large the universe is I just find it sorta close minded to believe in alllllll that there isn't sometoehr intellegent life form...I wont say for sure that they've vistited us and we have them at area 51 but the concept of aliens I believe in.
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    Post by J.Libor Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:29 pm

    There is no doubt in my mind that there are aliens. They could be thousand of year behind us or thousands of years in front of us, but we have no idea how far space goes, and to think out of the millions upon trillions of galaxies out there, we are the only planet with living organisms is really stupid in my eyes.
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    Post by A.Halls Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:37 pm

    Another thing that (in my mind) support the fact that there are no, at least captured, aliens in Area 51 or any other air force base, is that if there actually exist alien lifeforms out there, they are probably much more advanced than us humans.
    It's highly unlikely that the human race have encountered alien speices in any of our space travels, and thus brought any back home for research etc.
    If there are aliens present on earth, they have come here by their own will and means of transport.
    So, if there are any aliens at Area 51 or any other place, they are probably liasons working with the humans, not prisoners/test subjects. Rather, they are studying us. If they can travel here by space, they probably have the technology to observe us before making contact...
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    Post by M. Galligano Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:50 pm

    McGuire, that was unbelievably interesting. That sort of boosted my thoughts of aliens. That's crazy, yet it seems so real.
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    Post by D.McGuire Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:56 pm

    Yeah, it's so convincing, yet your still unsure, they're still unexplained parts. The weirdest thing, I don't know if it said anything about it in that article, but I read this in a book called "Weird New England" (A book of paranormal stories and other oddities in New England)


    You know the Mean IN Black, like the movie?:
    This was fairly recently, somewhere between around 2000, Barney's doctor or somebody who studied him or was close to him had a knock in his door one morning. It was 3 men in black suits with an older model, yet brand new looking black sedan. They asked "Are you aware of how Barney Hill died?". The guy replied "Yes, I believe it was a heart attack." The guy said "No, he died because he knew too much."

    I'll see if I can find that online

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_black
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    Post by M. Galligano Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:00 pm

    That's even scarier. Were the men aliens?
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    Post by T. Matthews Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:06 pm

    im in the same boat as cressler..to think that out of the whole universe and everything out there that were the only living things/planet..no way this whole universe was reated just for us..there has got to be life out there somewhere..do i think they have some at area 51?..im gonna say no, i think it is just military testing and the government just likes/wants people going crazy over it and wondering..entertains them probably
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    Post by D.McGuire Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:06 pm

    Could be, stories claim that they are either government officials or aliens posing as government/military officials that try to cover up stories or whatever from people who know "too much" about UFOs. (By too much, I don't mean your or me, I mean people who have been abducted and go public about it and very detail)

    I just found form another source that Betty Hill reported Men in Black among other paranormal activity in their residence:

    Men in Black:
    They may have even reported a visit by the now infamous Men in Black. Betty saw a large black sedan pull into her driveway from an upstairs bedroom and watched as a man dressed in a black suit got out and walked slowly up to her front door. The doorbell rang and Betty went to answer the door. When she opened the door, the man was gone and the driveway empty.

    Paranormal Activities:
    As the weeks past, the Hills began to report other paranormal events in their home. They would hear the front door open and footsteps walking through their house but upon investigation find no one there. One day, Betty Hill arrived home to find one of her bowls in the middle of the kitchen table with a block of ice in the middle of it. Embedded inside the ice, was a necklace that Betty hadn’t seen since the night of the UFO sighting.

    both from:
    http://www.ufovillage.com/ufofeatures/2007/12062007.shtml

    I'm glad I finally have somebody to discuss this with who is interested and doesn't think I'm crazy, lol.
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    Post by J. Hannahan Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:02 pm

    Creepy....
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    Post by DCBurke Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:29 pm

    I'm going to play devil's advocate here.. I'm not totally believed against extraterrestrials (I'm a sci fi writer) but I don't want to assume that Area 51 is aleins.. For all we know, it could be home to a larger conspiracy, such as all these high up spies and what not that go missing could end up here Wink

    All these cases of UFO evidence are very shady... Several people have shown photographs of UFOs that are "100% real" and they are indeed undoctored, however they are usually of a speck on the lens or whatever. Also a lot of these stories can be faked. Another side, is that some people honestly believe they happen, but I want to take a psychological look at it. If you believe something hard enough, you'll start to think it's true. Sometimes people see something happen to them, such as a weird bite on the neck that could be from a bug or whatever, but take the shape of it to believe it's a vampire, and will then start to believe they are a victim of that. Other people luck into an alien dream/nightmare (caused by sickness more than likely, yes your health controls your dreams) and then they wake up with a weird sickness or whatever in the morning, and they blame it on abduction. They probably just ate some bad supper, but because of the dreams, and their distorted view (we all have a distorted view of some sort) they start to see it their own way of being abducted. Just like some tribes still believe the sun is god, it's because someone needed an explanation, and that was an easy one, and then belief made it seem real, when objectively it is pretty absurd.

    I challenege you to look at one of these stories and try to debunk it. A lot of this stuff looks real to people who want to believe it but to an objective viewer, it's stupid.... MY greatest example is a 2012 site. I am undecided on the whole idea of it, but I read a site, and it was all for it. It was saying there COULD be a solar flare, scientists are calling for one december 2012... Like december 21? That's actually what it said, and it was a bunch of crazy nonsense saying look, they said it could happen 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012. Look there 2012 is again. Just look at it objectively, and try to disprove it with logic, if you can, then it's probably bullsh*t.

    Not to say I don't believe the idea of aliens, but why they would want to abduct some dumb hillbilly in bumhole no where, well if they're smart enough to do intergallactic travel, I think they'll release that they should be after someone else, maybe more intelligent?

    Anyways, that's my two cents.. Also for those interested, here's an interesting video, I am intrigued, maybe I could write another book, this time about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Nt0jgGNek
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    Post by M. Kaizer Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:19 pm

    Yes, there are other forms of intelligent life out there. Just look at the odds: The universe is infinitely large, and getting bigger. What are the chances that we're the only ones? Zero.

    No, we are never going to meet the other intelligent lifeforms, nor have we been visited by them. Just look at the distances involved. The first of the Voyager satellites has been going for some 30-odd years, and it still hasn't gotten out of the damn solar system!
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    Post by A. Botfish Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:47 am

    I don't think that area 51 is in Nevada. I think it's somewhere else, maybe they just want people to think it's there! lol Wink
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    Post by DCBurke Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:07 pm

    Area 51 the base is there, the contents of area 51, if they exist per conspiracy is the thing I'm assuming you're alluding to
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    Post by M. Cressler Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:26 pm

    haha yeah area 51 is definetly there whats in it is a mystery but its 100% there lol
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    Post by A. Botfish Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:57 pm

    Exactly Burke, who knows what's in there! LOL!
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    Post by C. Davis Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:49 pm

    Ohhh, this is a fun topic! Anyway, I do believe in aliens and ghosts. I do think that there is a 100% chance of life in the universe besides us. With the new discovery of an Earth-like planet, there's gotta be life somewhere! Anyway, my friend's dad works for the Air Force and I see him a lot, so maybe I could ask him sometime about what goes on, but I doubt he knows. Anyway, I believe that Area 51 is used for Top-Secret military prototype planes and plane designs/test flights etc. I bet they don't want to have the general population know about future planes used in the military or what not. Still I'm really curious.
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    Post by DCBurke Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:37 pm

    Area 51 is a top secret facility, talking about it to non official persons could put you in jail for a long long time. Or death.

    You don't screw with the us gov. They shut down our old host because of one user was posting terrorism related stuff. All of it gone in to federal warehouses, anyone said anything, it's jail time. It was finially announced afterwards though why, that's how I know
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    Post by M. Cressler Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:43 pm

    i have a top secret security clearence and i can't talk about any of it that should be a hint...
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    Post by C. Davis Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:50 pm

    Yeah right. Anyway, yeah scratch that I won't be asking anyone haha.
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    Post by Manuel_Martins Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:07 am

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51

    Its a secret US military base wich makes counter-intellegence.
    It is also a US Air force support base.
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    Post by M. Cressler Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:14 am

    The only thing I can really say about it is w.e it is is above top-secret if it's aliens, if it's weapons, or planes, or just a giant stoarage location for documents that I dont know....but me with a Military I.D. and my top secret clearence I can not drive onto the base...I can drive into almost another base anywhere in the world but not area 51....like I said something there is above top secret
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    Post by Manuel_Martins Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:15 am

    Indeed.
    What are they hiding?
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    Post by C. Jackson Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:21 am

    Since it's a base used for some experimental aircraft, they're obviously hiding the technology there, and they don't want every man and his dog (dogs are often russian spies) to get eyes on it, and report it back really, there may be aliens there, but if there were, I assume we wouldn't know the airbase location, for security reasons.
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    Post by M. Cressler Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:00 am

    yeah but see thats it any other base that has experimental weaponry I can still walk onto and it's just as vital as aircraft
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    Post by C. Davis Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:42 pm

    Yes, I wonder who's allowed into Area 51? I wonder what rank you have to be...?
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    Post by M. Cressler Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:56 pm

    it's not about rank in fact a lot of civilians work there and they don't drive there they fly there I honestly don't know what the selection process is probably ex CIA or FBI secret service stuff like that.
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    Post by DCBurke Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:21 pm

    Areas like that are special ops command, you're selected, you don't apply, you enlist or whatever, they find you and pick you specially. They'll kmnow everything about you when hiring you, elsewise you're not getting hired. There will be people in there from civilian, to enlisted privates, to Commssioned generals, but they are the best of the best in their fields.
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    Post by C. Davis Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:23 pm

    Oh cool. Maybe I could give it a shot...
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    Post by M. Cressler Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:01 pm

    haha did you read the part where you can't really join you're pretty much told one day your joing lol
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    Post by A. Botfish Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:34 am

    If you were told you could join. Would you? I might just become a fire fighter. Cause' then you wouldn't be able to tell anybody about your job. That would suck!
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    Post by M. Cressler Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:36 am

    yeah i'd probably say no if I knew what it was but if they just said do you want to come work for the goverment idk it'd be hard to say no haha
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    Post by A. Botfish Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:41 am

    I'm not big into goverment jobs. I wouldn't want everything and have like $1,000,000.00. I would have no reason to live
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    Post by M. Cressler Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:57 am

    haha i got my paychecks from the us treasury for a bit i promise I dont have a mil :p haha and I wouldn't mind having the money because it would make alot of things easier but I also wouldn't you know live like a famous person cause i'd punch the news in the face if they were always bothering me haha....a couple miles outside of my home town we have a super bowl winner and he went to the pro bowl like 3 times he's wasn't a QB or anything but he still has a good amount a money and own some buisness now so he keeps a steady income still...but he doesn't live all famous like I mean he has like 6 of the same exact truck but in different colors haha...but there just normal F-150's nothing special his house is big but its not over sized he has a large family so it needs to be big but he's a very humble person.
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    Post by A. Botfish Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:15 am

    M. Cressler wrote:haha i got my paychecks from the us treasury for a bit i promise I dont have a mil :p haha and I wouldn't mind having the money because it would make alot of things easier but I also wouldn't you know live like a famous person.

    That's what I meant
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    Post by C. Jackson Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:17 am

    Hmm, love Cressler's idea of dealing with the news, punch them in the face, and generate more news, it's a bit of a flawed plan to be honest.
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    Post by A. Botfish Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:25 am

    Kinda what I thought
    "Hi, i'm blah blah! And todays head story is that current millionaire Moon Cressler has punched a fellow news reporter in the face! This is Blah Blah siging out" LOL!

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