OOC Shift Schedules

Shift Schedules

I want everyone's opinions on the current system, the downs and the ups.

im finding it to be a bit annoying because i can never tell what the time is and weather its full staff or not. but on the upside i like it because it gives time for other things to be done......just my two cents

My opinion is it doesn't quite make sense it doesn't seem needed if it were based off of like a real time zone it might make more sense but right now it's just random like we were all at jansns party and the tones dropped but it was during a full staff period so we all just time travled to the station haha I like the ideal but personally think it's un needed and just causes confusion and it doesn't help that most people dont check the time before the post to see if they are actually in station or not, but thats just my 2 cents

Hmm, okay, so what do you suggest? A real time zone would be a bitch to work with, plain and simple... Kill it all together?

I was thinking of doing maybe this: When a call comes in, you are either at the station, or racing there, if the truck leaves before you get there, you were on it, just dind't post your arrival. Period. Then when the call is cleared and you return to station, whatever time it is in your time zone, youwould either A stay at the station, or B go home. I'd adjust the schedules to say 18-00 at station, 00-08 home, etc, then it might be easier for you guys?

i like that.

I just have one question, on BLS-1 what would be our schedule?

I think we kill it all together though if you do decide to keep it making it just like 2 shift times would be easier to understand then the like 4 we have now and it's differen't on weekdays and it's realllly confusing haha

I worded my last post bad. My apologies, I was meaning what kind of shift is BLS-1 on right now. I didn't see a shift topic, and was confused.

I didn't make one for EMS, though depending on the change, if there is one, it'll be made for general everyone

Ok, thanks for your answer sir.

I am kinda the same as bruce and moon, i can never tell what time/ day it is..and either way everyone is getting on the truck so does it really matter our origin?

Well first of all, I don't even know my shift scedules. But about knowing what time it is, just kinda keep track in the break room. If we're asleep, it's night, breakfast is morning, and training usually happens during the day. About what day...it's usually the same as RL, like right now, it's Friday. Besides, on who's on the truck/at the sation, the call has the time in the EAT when it's dispatched.

DCBurke wrote:Hmm, okay, so what do you suggest? A real time zone would be a bitch to work with, plain and simple... Kill it all together?

I was thinking of doing maybe this: When a call comes in, you are either at the station, or racing there, if the truck leaves before you get there, you were on it, just dind't post your arrival. Period. Then when the call is cleared and you return to station, whatever time it is in your time zone, youwould either A stay at the station, or B go home. I'd adjust the schedules to say 18-00 at station, 00-08 home, etc, then it might be easier for you guys?

I think thafor what we are is the best idea so far, unless we do regular schedules meaning 24 on and 48 off type thing, If not then that idea above would work best. My 2 cents

J.Floan wrote:

DCBurke wrote:Hmm, okay, so what do you suggest? A real time zone would be a bitch to work with, plain and simple... Kill it all together?

I was thinking of doing maybe this: When a call comes in, you are either at the station, or racing there, if the truck leaves before you get there, you were on it, just dind't post your arrival. Period. Then when the call is cleared and you return to station, whatever time it is in your time zone, youwould either A stay at the station, or B go home. I'd adjust the schedules to say 18-00 at station, 00-08 home, etc, then it might be easier for you guys?

I think thafor what we are is the best idea so far, unless we do regular schedules meaning 24 on and 48 off type thing, If not then that idea above would work best. My 2 cents

well, were all ways supposed to make the truck, so you are never really on or off

SO here are the three choices I have come up with:
Don't touch current system
Adjust so when a call is sent, persons would respond to the station if not there, and go on the truck if they are (haven't posted they're somewhere else) . When it's over they go home based on their time (Daytime in their zone, they're on, night time, they're off)
Or same response as above, but after call is lax

Yeah since we make the truck no matter what the shift thing seems sorta dumb

Yeah you just get there when you get there, but you're kinda always on the truck.

Well the reason we did schedules, is so people could use their POV's... If they beat the Lt to signing on, they get to say they are responding in their POV and get a nice big detailed response post

yeah but most people dont notice yet I think you should just eliminate them and if people happen to have been posting in there house when the call comes in the respond POV if they are in the break room there there.

Matthews, How in the world does that make sense. If we are always supposed to make the truck then there is no need for schedules at all and we might as well be known as the ERVT Emergency response Volunteer Team. Instead of a professional Department. ( No Offense at all to any of the RL Volunteers that may be on the dept here. )

Lemme try and explain what I'm proposing:
By no means do I want a show up when you can, setup. You'll be messaged a personal schedule if you pull that crap, I expect you to spend equal time at the station and home, if not more at home. Post Responsibly. You wouldn't work for a federal department you're only at once a week, and you won't spend every day from your family either.. So there has to be a balance of sorts.

I personally like the second option, which is the whereever you are for the call initating would be your response decision (if you miss the truck, we'll pretend you made it, we just didn't post it) and the time of day in your area determines if you're to stay at the station or go home after a call.

right now i think everyone does a pretty good job of spending time home and at station they usually just post according to there time zone if there going to bed they say there leaving the station going home they wake up and go to the station which i think is pretty fair and even

I'm for the second option, it makes sense to me. But, that's just my opinion.

I agree I do see alot of people posting from their houses and from the station However, the Time zone thing is something that MUST be addressed. If a call does come in I do like the idea that Burke proposes that you make it wether or not u are at the house or not, that way it covers the people on the East Coast who are asleep when a call comes in at 2100 or 2200 on the West Coast. But I also like the idea of shifts, If you get a set crew you work with and enjoy eachothers company its much more fun to interact and work with them then, you get to know them. Just like the Real Thing.

I don't want to put several shifts for each truck, though I think what we could do, is have calls begin with more space, instead of rushing through them in the first 5 hours, to give people time to respond, especially in seperate time zones far apart. Then at the end of the call, go whereever. I don't want half the truckshowing up halfway through the call in POV's... We're a professional department, not a volunteer one, so you never miss the truck when you're called to it. There will be times when we are first due, when I'll Personally message those in houses and what not to wrap it up and go to the station to be there for when we have the call, instead of this waiting on POVs crap.

I like 2 because then at least there is still some structure, but at the same time is still makes sense

Oh speaking of seperate time zones as we get more people I think you should try to organize based on location to like dont but someone from australia and usa on the same BLS ambo if you have someone else from austrlia to put him with it will make it flow better for everyone so you dont have to wait 12 hrs to get a patient onto a stretcher haha

J.Floan wrote:Matthews, How in the world does that make sense. If we are always supposed to make the truck then there is no need for schedules at all and we might as well be known as the ERVT Emergency response Volunteer Team. Instead of a professional Department. ( No Offense at all to any of the RL Volunteers that may be on the dept here. )

Hey man, calm down, really. It's an online game, no need to get crazy over it. And get the facts straight, Burke said, and he can back me, that if we were to miss a truck we would be "fired". And thats proving my point, we really dont need sechduals, because we always make the truck .

Well the shifts schedules don't really affect me, since I don't work after one, but it seems to me this is the best way to do it.

1. We add a bit of realism in that these guys don't live at the fire station all day, every day, all year.

2. Let's face it, we are here to have fun. And at least to me, fun is going to calls, or getting patients to the hospital. Assuming this is true for everyone else, we do want to run on as many calls as possible. Using the POVs will lets people who aren't on duty attend the call anyway, adding to the fun.
And, people who're having fun will stay longer.

Just my 0,02$

If I had my shift scedules, it would be easy to check up on my shift. The time of day kinda depends on what we're posting. Usually we just hang around in the afternoon and stuff. But yeah I think it would be easier just to have the scedules say 'At station' and 'At home.'

Okay, so I want everyone with an idea that isn't mine, to just post it right now, no explantiations, just the idea
Those with agreements of my ideas, post their agreement. No explanations.

I agree with option 2

i agree

I like option 2.

Just thinking outside the proverbial box here but...what if we say that we're all one shift? Think sort of Third Watch, the series. We all respond to all calls, but we only get called between say 3 pm and 11 pm. Since we're not real time, we can still dispatch at any time, just the time posted in the EAT thread really matters.

After we've run one shift for a while, we can switch to running graveyard for a while, for example.

Outside our shift, NPCs man our posts.

Thoughts?

But how do you determine when we're on duty and when we're not.. Like if we're posting home, then appear here, you know what I am saying..?

What if, in the dispatch you say what shift should be on. For example:

Normal Dispatch, then where you put the Time, Weather and concerns you put what shift would be on. It might make it clearer.

On another RP I was in, we were allowed to time warp. IE that you could do the home life thing while being on call. But yeah, if you don't want that, knowing when you can be at home is a real problem. Like I said, was just trying to think outside the box. It's the same to me what we do really.

I also find it confusing. I think you should kill it and go back to the way it used to be.

The no schedules, no pov thing?

I'm talking about the time shifts

I think we need a time scale, like 1 week in rl = 1 day in PATZ. Then we could set up shifts like:

monday,tuesday (early morning)
wednesday thursday (late morning to after noon)
Friday (early evening)
saturday, saunday (night)

Shifts:
SV-2
mon, = no one
tues, wed, =Anders
thurs, Fri = Both
Sat, sun = Botfish

So i would be at the station on monday through friday in rl, which would be like 4 am to 4 pm in PATZ. then we would also have more then one call a "day" like a staiion this size would. this is what would be best in my opinon.

Well that i definatly agree with, we need more calls. I would gladly help out with call volume, call type but the size of our house definatly would dictate more calls.

We also need to remember that we can only have calls when we have the units, and we don't have enough units to constantly have several calls on the go. I do agree we have the people to have calls going almost every day, but we can't always have everyone at a call, like I wouldn't expect my EMS guys to never stop, I don't expect the fire guys to have to do that either. Like I think maybe a day or two between calls is good for large groups like fire trucks, since that allows them to have a life outside of the calls, and do other things as well. Also, we're not a primary response team like the big city departments, we're mostly secondary support and response.

sorry I wasn't clear enough :/ when i said "day" I ment PATZ time, so we would have maybe 1-3 calls a week in rl here, but with the time scale it would be one day in PATZ.

I think thats one of the best ideals yet I"ll try to restate it cause it's always good to hear it from a different angle but say like

Sunday through Wednesday were on duty and Wednesday through saturday were off shift

if you made a call like saturday night you'd have to specifiy because due to time difference some people would be on sunday some would still be on saturday but I like that ideal it eliminates alot of confusion to....
the only way I dont like this ideal is like in my case i have to see the docotr in a week make that a real life week not a PATZ weeks cause I dont really wanna be hurt for ever haha

Yeah, that's the one downside to that kinda thing, if we lengthen time, then we have to either have speed healing or LONG healings... That's why we have time warp now, like I can start a call at 1700h PATZ, and a day later start one that takes place only an hour later, or maybe a full day later.. If it run two calls together, I'll specify in the EAT that this is concurrent with call IDwhatever. Just something to make it work better. I think there will have to be time warp to make it work, but at the same time I don't want it confusing, so people don't know what's happening either

Yeah. I kinda like the idea like 1 week=1 day in PATZ. It gives us enough time to see who's on shift and we can still get numerous call per "day." We also don't need to rush thourgh calls to get them done in a RL day.

I like the idea too!

same here

Hmm, okay, I'll see if I can work on a hybrid of the two, because one week rl is one day PATZ will be brutal for healing, since you can't heal in a day and waiting two months is a bit much