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    Rapid extrication from car

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    Post by M. Kaizer Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:40 am

    Was watching some videos on youtube the other day, and found this (click me). It's norwegian firefighters and air ambulance personnel in an extrication exercise. Oh, and ignore the music -_-

    One end of the car is chained to one fire truck/engine, the other to another or something solid. The truck/engine then backs up, cracking the car in two and freeing the person inside.

    My question is, is this technique commonly used elsewhere as well?
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    Post by D.McGuire Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:26 am

    I have never heard of that technique, seems kind of dangerous and risky though. If they pull it too far something like the dashboard could snap and injury either the patient or the firefighters.
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    Post by M. Kaizer Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:39 am

    Well I think it's only used if the victims legs are trapped. The idea is to pull the car back into shape. Since it also raises the seat, it makes it easier for EMS to work on him as well.
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    Post by M.Linda Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:24 am

    They use what is called a modified dash roll.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTI-bR9nYUQ
    They can use the spreader method like they did there or they can use hydraulic rams to move the dash up and away from legs that are trapped. In my opinion using that method is really dangerous because what if that leg is all tangled up when they pull with the fire truck they might actually make it worse. This actually lifts the dash without having to split the car.
    Here's another video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdwdPsVGB6U
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    Post by M. Kaizer Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:09 am

    Ah, I see. Yeah I thought it was rather strange when I first saw it.
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    Post by C. Davis Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:57 pm

    Yeah, that's weird. I've never seen that before. If they pull it too much, something in the car could snap off and hit the patient or firefighters.
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    Post by DCBurke Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:51 pm

    I have seen that practice a few times here, however it wasn't with two vehicles, it was with a hydraulic spreader, sorta like a giant Jaws of Life. Very seldom does it have to be used though... Most of the time, the simple jaws work fine enough to free you
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    Post by M.Daniels Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:47 pm

    Thats pretty cool, a bit too dangerous though!
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    Post by C. Davis Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:17 am

    Yeah, I've heard of the huge hydrolic spreaders before, but not this method.
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    Post by M. Kaizer Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:24 am

    Would this method be quicker than hydrolic spreaders though?
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    Post by M.Linda Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:56 pm

    Quicker but a lot more risky
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    Post by C. Davis Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:07 pm

    Yeah, but the hydrolic spreaders don't put otehr people's lives in danger.
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    Post by M. Kaizer Mon Jan 03, 2011 7:17 am

    I met a guy at the new years eve party I was at who used to be a fire fighter, and I asked him about this extrication method. He said it was rarely used, only when the EMS personnel on scene ordered (here incident command lies with the Police if they're on scene, if not EMS has it, if they're not there then fire has it. But he said that EMS usually gets their way.), and there wasn't time to use hydrolic spreaders. Life was more important than limb, as he put it.

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